Comments on: Ditching The Bone China

By: Dave Faulkner

Dave Faulkner — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:59:23 +0000

Links would be most welcome! The only ones I can find are in Australia! Thanks.

By: Owen

Owen — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:30:51 +0000

I hear you Dave……..I think what I have on the brain currently is our “local mission” right here. It just really struck me how that mega-church was not engaging the western culture that they were right in the middle of!

I’ve found that book for sale on several different sites, I can send you links if you’d like.

By: Dave Faulkner

Dave Faulkner — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:44:46 +0000

Dan, I didn’t realise you were away again. When do you expect to be back? Do send any prayer needs privately to me.

By: Dave Faulkner

Dave Faulkner — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:41:59 +0000

Thanks, Owen, this seems to be ab0ut fundamental missionary principles to me. Alan Roxburgh very much follows the thinking of a now-deceased English missionary and theologian called Lesslie Newbigin whose basic question after returning to the UK after years of service in India was, "What would a missionary engagement with western culture look like?" I've been trying to track down Simon Carey Holt's book, but it doesn't seem to be available in the UK. I think I'll have to import it from Australia or Canada (that last thought will please you!).

By: Dan Smith

Dan Smith — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:59:01 +0000

Dave, I’m on my ship at the moment and unable to watch the video, but I just want you to know that I agree with your assessment 100%. I have made this mistake myself countless times, asking people to do what I want them to do in order to see the Gospel as I see it, not as God has it for them. Thank you for the humbling opportunity! I’ll watch the video when I return home.

By: Owen

Owen — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:58:42 +0000

Dave, this article (not to mention the video!!) really rocks the boat, and gives me a lot to think about. I hope readers of this who have positions of authority in mainline churches over here in the west can handle it…..this is revolutionary stuff.

I find it a very sad commentary that the founders of that church, whoever they were, obviously had no problem parking their massive church in this neighbourhood, yet still nobody thought the neighbourhood was good enough for them to actually live in, be in, be involved in. And obviously they weren’t interested in ministering to that neighbourhood – if none of the attendees lived there, then the leadership of that church were aiming at a whole different demographic.

Thanks for this….I’m meeting with my pastor next week to discuss ideas and direction for our website, and I’ll be bringing up these thoughts with him.